Before you start reading about how to prepare for individual parts of a competition, it is good to understand the whole process. I know what you’re thinking – what’s to understand? Somebody has a job, I need a job, let’s go! Not so fast…

The process has a lot of steps, some of which involve you and most of which don’t. Plus, it is very different from the private-sector advice you will find on most websites. Need a quick example? How about cover letters – lots of websites will tell you to keep them to a single page, which if you do for a government job, you’ll pretty much ensure that you get screened OUT (you’ll see why later).

So, the better you understand the whole process from beginning to end, the better chance you will have of succeeding. Don’t worry, this is just an introduction, most of the applied learning comes later, stage by stage.

Government competitions are governed by legislation

The biggest difference between the private-sector and the public sector is that most government competitions at any level are governed by legislation. This is true for the Canadian federal government, and the legislation is broad enough to encompass a whole host of human resources issues in the huge entity known as the Government of Canada. It also goes into detailed guidance on process, well beyond what a private-sector company has to do to comply with labour law legislation.

While many HR people can debate eloquently about the subtle differences between government staffing and private-sector staffing, there is one singular difference that changes the nature of the process from beginning to end:

While both the private-sector and the public sector argue that hiring is always based on merit, the Canadian government has legislation that defines precisely what merit means for all competitions. Which means a manager must be able to document and substantiate HOW that person demonstrates merit and WHY they are the right person.

Put differently, it is not enough to find the right someone to do the job (fact), but to be able to document the assessment criteria beforehand and to prove the person meets it (fact + perception). After all, that person is going to be paid by the taxpayer. And Parliamentarians, on behalf of taxpayers, want to know that merit is being demonstrated for all hiring.

Considering what merit means in layman’s terms

Before going further, stop and think about the merit requirement from a personal perspective. Suppose you went to university or college. You probably thought hard about which one to apply to, which area to study. How would you demonstrate to someone that you picked the “best” or β€œright” program for you? Or suppose you bought a house. Lots of variables, lots of options to consider. How would you demonstrate to someone that it was the β€œone right house”?

The short answer is that in both circumstances you probably can’t. Not definitively, at least.

Instead, you could demonstrate that you:

  1. considered a broad range of options;
  2. identified a few factors that were important to you; and,
  3. impartially ranked a few universities or colleges or houses based on those factors.

But, in the end, you are not really demonstrating the β€œone right choice” so much as that you had a reasonable, logical approach to your decision. Instead of showing the right decision, you show that your β€œprocess” was sound and thus led to a β€œright” decision. This is basically how government processes prove merit too.

Merit prior to 2003

Up until 2003, the β€œproof” process was one of the biggest problems with government hiring. When the manager reached the end of a competition, there were numerous appeals where they had to demonstrate the β€œright” decision, or in some cases the β€œperfect” decision, and they couldn’t have anyone start the work until all the appeals were cleared. Managers felt constrained, employees felt it was too bureaucratic, and overall everything took forever. Let’s walk through a general example of how this worked prior to 2003, and then a specific example to make it more concrete (don’t fuss too much about the terminology at this point, I’ll come back to it later).

Managers ran competitions for positions. They set up a list of criteria, they tested everyone on those criteria, and when it was done, the scores were totaled up and a global score was assigned to each candidate. Then, each candidate was placed on an eligibility list in order of their global score (called a reverse order of merit, but that’s not usually important anymore). A cut-off score, established earlier, was used to determine who made the list and who didn’t – if you were above the cutoff score, you made it; if you were below the cutoff, you didn’t. Sometimes there were five people on a list, or a hundred, and other times, just one. This was called a β€œcompetition” or a β€œcompetitive process” to create an eligibility list. Once the list was established, and all appeals had been heard / addressed, a manager could hire off the list. But s/he had to do it in order – the person who ranked first got the first offer, the second person got the second offer, etc.

That’s a pretty straightforward process, and is familiar to most people as it looks a lot like academic testing. If you get the most right answers, you get the highest mark. And get the job. A typical process of testing β€œmerit”.

Now suppose you are a manager needing to hire a computer support person and you test just three things – software knowledge, hardware knowledge and interpersonal skills:

  • Person A gets 10/10 on software and 8/10 on hardware, but their interpersonal skills are terrible, and they only get a 5/10 on the last one. Overall score is 23/30.
  • Meanwhile, Person B isn’t as strong on software (2/10), but aces hardware (10/10), and interpersonal (10/10). End result is 22/30.

So Person A beats Person B by one mark, and gets the job. Except the manager is worried – customer service is a key part of the job, as is hardware. So Person B who is great with people, and even better at hardware, might be a better fit for the team than someone whose strength is mainly software. Under the old system, the manager had no choice – whoever came first on the scoring was the one who got the offer.

Even if you ignore the above example, we all know people who are great at certain skills or areas but lousy at taking tests. Equally, we all know people who are great at taking tests, but you wouldn’t want to work with them on a daily basis. Having global scores doesn’t ensure that the person who gets the best score on a series of tests is necessarily the best person for doing the work or for fitting into an existing team.

As a result, under the old system, many managers were frustrated – they would have someone who would rank first on a competition, but be a potentially disastrous fit. Meanwhile, sitting at number 2 on the list was a stellar candidate who missed by one or two marks. In the above example, it was one or two marks out of 30, but a competition might have tested multiple areas with larger scores. For example, on one competition under this system, I was tested on 10 or 12 areas, and beat the second-place candidate by two marks out of five hundred. I got the job. Was there really any difference between her and I on the results, if I beat her by two marks out of five hundred? She could have easily done the job too, but the manager didn’t get to choose which of us was the β€œbetter fit”, because I had a higher score. The second-place candidate was offered a different job, so she still received an offer, but she would rather have had a chance at my position (she did regularly remind me that I got the better job because I beat her by only TWO MARKS…I guess she forgave me, she did one of the readings at my wedding).

Yet, as with the above example, a manager had no flexibility once the scores were tallied. Ideally, if the manager was planning properly, they would have weighted factors differently. So, in the computer support person example above, they would have assigned 50 marks to interpersonal skills, 30 marks to hardware knowledge, and only 10 marks for the software side. Which, for the above scores would have given person A 25+10+24 = 59/90 and Person B 50+30+2=82/90.

But often, during appeals, those differential weightings were hard to justify – why is the interpersonal β€œ5x” the software weight? Why not only β€œ2x”? Or equal? Equal weightings are always easy to justify, and many managers defaulted to it. In fact, many HR people advised them to do so because it was easy to manage and easy to defend.

There are numerous academic articles about how bad HR processes were in the government at that time, as well as a couple of official government reports. All of them came to the same conclusion – too bureaucratic, too slow, too inflexible, too “score-driven”.

Merit after 2003

The Canadian government listened to the complaints and passed new legislation to govern human resources management. Called the Public Service Modernization Act (PSMA), it was passed in 2003 and came into effect throughout 2003, 2004 and 2005. Under the PSMA, there are four new or amended acts that encompass the web of rules pertaining to human resources:

  • The Public Service Employment Act (PSEA), which covers employment, staffing, and political activities;
  • The Financial Administration Act (FAA), which covers accountability;
  • The Canada School of Public Service Act (CSPSA), which covers development and learning; and,
  • The Public Service Labour Relations Act, which covers collective bargaining, disputes and labour relations.

The first two are the main ones because they affect how competitions are created and who can compete in them. They also changed the way merit would be assessed. According to the PSEA, an appointment is deemed to be based on merit when:

  1. The Public Service Commission (PSC) is satisfied the appointee meets all essential qualifications including language proficiency; and,
  2. The Manager also takes into account, potentially, any extra qualifications that might be helpful (but not essential) or operational requirements or organizational needs.

In other words, if the resulting appointee meets all the qualifications, they can be appointed WITHOUT having to rank first in all the essential elements, and the manager may consider some additional skills, needs, requirements that a candidate might meet (like other related experiences, educational training, etc.).

As a result of this change in definition of merit, under the new system (i.e. after 2003), β€œcompetitions” have been replaced by β€œselection processes” and β€œeligibility lists” have been replaced by β€œpools”. The difference is twofold:

  1. Each of the elements being tested must be passed individually. If you are strong in one area, but weak in another, you can’t compensate through a global score – each element is marked separately and a cutoff score assigned for each. Using the computer support person example from above, a manager might set the cutoff for β€œinterpersonal skills” as a minimum of β€œ6/10”, in which case Person A wouldn’t have passed even though their global score was the highest. Fail one element, and you are β€œout” – because you failed to demonstrate you are qualified for all of the elements. Oddly enough, this process actually means all elements are ranked equally (since you have to pass every element), but managers don’t have to choose whoever ranks “first” in raw score at the end.
  2. When the process is over, instead of a ranked list of successful candidates, you have a β€œgroup” of people who are all considered β€œequally qualified”. In other words, they all have demonstrated that they meet the essential elements of each of the criteria being tested. Or, in even shorter words, they can do the job. They have the skills. But since they are all β€œqualified”, a manager can now choose whichever one of them is the β€œbest fit” for the existing team. Suppose, for example, that you were the computer support manager mentioned above and you had four people already on your team with one vacancy. Perhaps, too, the four people are all really strong with software, but not as experienced in hardware trouble-shooting. After the pool is done, a manager can now look at the β€œpool” of candidates and may want to choose one that is strong in hardware to complement his existing team.

As a result, you now have β€œselection processes” to determine the qualified person(s), and β€œbest fit” to choose which of the qualified people will meet your current needs the best. The goals of this change in legislation were increased flexibility for the manager, a more streamlined process for appeals (due to some other changes discussed later), and a shorter overall timeframe for the processes. While there is some evidence of the first two, timeframes have not shrunk significantly since before 2003. An average process still lasts approximately six months from job posting to the person starting the job, and there is wide variation in the range (from three months to two years).

** Note that while the formal HR system now refers to β€œselection processes”, the layman term of β€œcompetition” is still used by most employees. As such, I will still use the term competition throughout the book for simplicity’s sake. However, for all current processes, it is technically a β€œselection process”.

The four legislative acts come into play more when we get to specific areas of the HR process, and I’ll address them where they are relevant in future chapters rather than going into any additional depth here.

Understanding The Selection Process / Competition

In a full selection process, there are eight phases and the candidate will likely only participate in two of them. While many of them are β€œshort”, and some of them may even be inapplicable in a situation, a variation on them happens in most competitions. Here is the full list:

  1. Managers identify a β€œneed”
  2. Managers formally advertise their needs
  3. Applicants apply and are screened in / out
  4. Candidates are tested for essential (and potentially asset) qualifications
  5. Managers select best fit candidate
  6. Managers formally state intention to hire specific applicant(s)
  7. Managers address appeals
  8. Managers hire the successful candidate

Let’s look at those steps in a bit more detail and see why you might care about all eight phases, even though it looks like you only participate in two of them.

Phase 1: Managers identify a β€œneed”

Often, the need has been identified because someone has left the division and they want to replace them; other times, the unit’s workload has been growing and they need another body; and still other times, they have a growing or new need for a specialized skill that they don’t already have on the team. But managers have choices in how they meet their needs:

  • WORKLOAD: They could eliminate less β€œpressing” files;
  • PRIORITIES: They could postpone this work until someone else can do it;
  • TEMPORARY HELP: They can use temporary help to cover off on a short-term basis;
  • CONTRACTS: They can engage professional contractors on a short- to medium-term basis to provide specific deliverables; or,
  • COMPETITION: They can hire someone on an assignment (borrowing someone), determinate (specified period) or indeterminate (permanent) basis.

If it is a new position, and they are filling it through competition, the manager has to do a full job description and a list of duties to get a position β€œclassified”. The classification process establishes two things – first, the stream of work (i.e. a Project Management Officer – PM or an Information Officer – IS or a Policy Analyst – EC) and the level of work (01, 02, 03, etc.). The stream generally matches what type of work you will be doing and affects which union you will join, while the level determines the size of your paycheque.

Classification is relatively easy if the manager is just replacing someone who left, as the position and its classification already exist; if not, and it is a β€œnew position”, classification can take anywhere from 3 days to 24 months. (Note: That is not a joke – classification has to be done by the HR branch, as it must be consistently applied across government to ensure pay equity. Unfortunately, there is a significant government-wide shortage of classification experts. As such, some departments are faced with really long waits.) Given that possible delay, many managers will instead try to find existing positions that are sitting empty, and β€œre-purpose” them for a competition (i.e. borrow a Project Manager or Analyst position from another work unit that is sitting empty). Alternatively, some may use positions that exist but with the wrong classification (i.e. some managers, preferring expediency over form, have hired people into PM boxes knowing that they were going to move towards more EC work over time – and reclassified them afterwards). This is not a recommended practice for managers, and can be painful for the candidates too (by having them apply for positions that do not match their career goals, for example).

One β€œtrick” that has sped up classification has been the development of β€œgeneric” job descriptions. For example, at ESDC, there are generic job descriptions for what a Policy Analyst, Level 4 (EC-04) generally does. On the positive side, a manager can create a new position, use the EC-04 generic job description, and classification is near-instantaneous. On the negative side, the job description is generic and may give little to no information to candidates about what they would actually be doing in that position once hired (Social policy? Labour market policy? Learning policy?).

There will also usually be some form of internal approval process whereby a manager will talk to their boss, and get approval (APPROVAL #1) to go ahead with staffing a position. This may be part of an overall HR planning process, or it could be a one-off approval. Either way, the manager will frequently draft a general list of duties that the new position would handle as part of explaining to the boss why the staff is required.

Why do you care about this β€œneeds” phase if you are an applicant?

Because if the manager is replacing someone who left, they may be looking for someone very similar to the person who left (i.e. a narrow-minded approach to staffing); however, if the manager is looking to cover new or expanding work, the manager may be more flexible on the profile of the successful candidate (i.e. open-minded). Knowing which is the case could tell you how much flexibility you have in how you tailor your application, resume and interview approach.

Because it is good to know that there are other options for hiring besides a competition as it opens up other ways to work for government. Some people have very enjoyable careers doing β€œgovernment work” without ever actually being a government employee i.e. being contractors/consultants/temps.

Because candidates can and do ask for a copy of the β€œjob description” that the manager had to develop during this stage of the process, but don’t be too surprised if it doesn’t completely specifyΒ exactlyΒ what the job looks like on a day-to-day basis (it’s extra information though, something most won’t ask about). The SMART candidate will also ask if there is a list of duties available too – HR and/or the manager may not share it, but sometimes they will. And you can then tailor your answers better in the interview towards the REAL job, not the generic job description! The closer you come to showing you can do the actual duties, the better off you are as a candidate.

Because classifications tend to reflect the type of work you do and it is not always easy to move between classifications, particularly outside of the National Capital Region. Let’s suppose, for example, you want to be a policy analyst. While lots of private sector people will tell you to take any job to β€œget your foot in the door”, difficulty switching between job classifications means you may be better off sometimes waiting to get into the stream you want rather than risk getting stuck in another stream altogether.

Phase 2: Managers formally advertise their needs

The Manager starts by writing up a Statement of Merit Criteria (SOMC). This is what most people think of as the β€œjob description”, as it is what is posted online to advertise the job. However, the SoMC (which most HR people will pronounce as SAHM-SEE) is not the job description but rather the list of skills / competencies on which the manager will test you.

Once the SOMC is written, the Manager submits it to HR to get approval (APPROVAL #2) to post the advertisement. Managers are not HR experts, nor am I. The true experts are the HR people who will review the SOMC and job description to ensure that everything is clear, and, to put it bluntly, to make sure the manager has valid, testable criteria that make sense for the job. No sense in posting analyst criteria for a project manager position. They also serve as gatekeepers to the Public Service Commission website for posting jobs.

Once HR approves, they’ll send the SoMC to the PSC for posting. Most departments don’t do the processing of applications themselves. Nor do they handle β€œadvertising” it (except for large scale recruitments like post-secondary recruitments, for example). Instead, they use the Public Service Commission to administer the advertising process and receipt of advertisements.

When the PSC gets the SoMC, they look at the classification and level, and look in their internal database to identify β€œpriority candidates”. In general terms, these are people who were laid off earlier by the government, or who relocated because their spouse moved, etc. The unions have negotiated with the federal government to give these former employees priority when positions become available at a similar group and level. So, if you post a PM-03 (project manager, level 03) job, the PSC will check to see if there are any PM-03s in your geographical area who are on a priority list for future PM-03 jobs. The list is a little more dynamic than that, but you get the general approach. The PSC can give managers a list of priorities at two different periods of time – now, when the manager is first asking to post, or later, when the competition is done and the manager is looking to staff someone. Managers have to assess the priority candidates to see if a competition has to be run at all.

There is one last step to all of this, and some HR professionals will quibble if it is a step at all. The PSC will post the notice. HR wants to quibble, as each department has access to the PSC websites and can β€œpost” the notices themselves. However, before the notices go β€œlive”, PSC personnel do review the post and approve it going on their site. As such, it is easier to think of it as the PSC posting the notice.

Why do you care about this β€œadvertising” phase if you are an applicant?

Because knowing this is the list of testable items makes you focus on what is important and avoid wasting time on things that won’t be tested.

Because it is one of the first big β€œchecks and balances” to ensure that the manager is going to run a fair and transparent process that makes sense.

Because this helps you immensely in knowing where to look for jobs! Rather than having to look at every department separately to see if they have jobs available, you can (generally) do one-stop shopping at the PSC websites (one for internal competitions, one for external competitions). It also adds a high degree of consistency across application processes and streamlines the application process. It also presents some challenges, but those will be discussed later. In addition, the notice gives you two contact information points per competition (a general enquiries person and an HR contact). This can be enormously helpful when following up on an element in a poster, or even just tracking the progress of the process. NOTE: These are NOT people you want to annoy with a multitude of questions, nor call them every day. They are there to help when you have a real problem, not hold your hand…that’s what this guide is for!

Because managers have to β€œassess” priority candidates against the SoMC to see if they have the requisite experience. If the candidates do, the selection process may stop here – the manager will offer them the job, and if they accept, you may never even see the notice. However, the lists are pretty broad and often the priority candidates aren’t an exact match to what the manager was looking for; in these cases, the manager may be open-minded and look to hire one of them anyway, or proceed with the original notice. This is not a simple β€œcheckbox” to be ticked – the manager MUST assess each interested referral. Only when the manager has demonstrated they have assessed the priority candidates will the PSC give a clearance number to proceed with posting the notice.

Phase 3: Applicants apply and are screened in / out

Finally, the masses of interested people send in their cover letters and resumes!

Then the PSC and/or HR screens applicants for eligibility. The PSC will do a quick computer-based check of your information that you enter to make sure you’re eligible (some positions are restricted to internal candidates, or by geography, or to a single department, etc.) and HR often does an additional check on certain elements.

Once the HR gurus have done the basic tests, the manager (or a consultant) will screen applications for experience and education. This is the first big hurdle for you as an applicant. The relevant legislation that controls the process for all competitions / selection processes requires that YOU prove you meet the requirements. Administratively, this means you will show in your cover letter, with the resume as backup evidence, how you meet each of the experience and education requirements. It is NOT sufficient for you just to say you meet that element, you have to show how.

If a manager has 100 applicants for a position, it may be that they screen out a large number of them depending on how restrictive or open they are with the criteria. For those applicants who are screened out, they have the β€œright” to ask for an informal discussion. While I will discuss this in more detail later under β€œrights of appeal”, technically this isn’t an appeal. It’s a chance for a manager and an applicant to correct an administrative error. Suppose, for example, that the manager reads your cover letter, determines you didn’t explain how you met criteria 2, and screens you out. However, you request an informal and it is discovered that for some reason there was a second page to your cover letter that was missing from the printout. The manager can say, β€œoops”, reconsider your application and perhaps screen you in. This is NOT a way for you to say, β€œhere’s more info I didn’t give you previously” – you can’t add anything to your cover letter or resume that wasn’t in your application. However, other times, it may be that the manager misunderstood part of your cover letter for differences in terminology and therefore screened you out. This is rare, as is missed information, but it does occasionally happen. To avoid the candidate appealing the competition later, this is a chance to quickly fix a possible simple error, and proceed with the rest of the competition.

Why do you care about this β€œapplication and screening” phase if you are an applicant?

Because this is where you get to DO something – you know, apply!

Because if you screw up your application and put in the wrong information, the HR people will screen you out, and the hiring manager will never even see your resume. Or, if you’re not eligible, don’t try to β€œfake” your way past it – all this info is verified, and once your application is found to be invalid, you’re out. All you’ll do is waste your time and theirs.

Because if you are screened out, an informal can be a great way to get feedback on why! If you had limited budget experience, for example, and that was one of the requirements for a position, but you applied anyway (I’ll explain later why you might do that), then you know why you were screened out. However, if you did financial forecasting for a year, financial administration for 3 years, etc., and you were still screened out, it’s worth it to ask what they were looking for from candidates. Perhaps they’ll tell you the minimum was five years; or they may tell you that it was too β€œadministrative” processing work and they were looking for more β€œstrategic management” budgeting. Either way, you know either how to word it next time OR what experience you need to try and get in order to be screened in for these types of jobs in the future.

Phase 4: Candidates are tested for essential (and potentially asset) qualifications

Now that the real process is underway for you as an applicant, managers will now assess the candidates knowledge, abilities, and personal suitabilities. This is the phase where you will be tested on every element in the SOMC. If it said you had to have knowledge of the current trends and issues in reproductive health, they will ask you about the current trends and issues in reproductive health. The manager will use a variety of tools (discussed later) to assess knowledge, abilities and personal suitabilities. And if you fail an element, you’re screened out (and usually don’t proceed any further in the process). At that point, the manager will offer informal consultations to screened out candidates to explain where they went wrong. It is POSSIBLE (but not probable) that the scoring was done wrong, and you did pass an element. So, like with the application, an informal could correct an administrative error and allow you to reinsert yourself in the process. Officially, that is why the β€œinformals” exist at these stages, but generally they are used for providing feedback (this will also be discussed in more detail in “rights of appeal”).

In addition to the knowledge / ability / personal suitability tests done by the manager, there will also be assessmentsΒ by HR or the PSC of any special eligibility requirements like language proficiency. For most departments, the PSC is the organization responsible for assessing your ability in your second language. Each position will have a language profile requirement attached to it (specified in the original poster). Near the end of the process, you will be given an opportunity to be tested at the PSC to see if you meet the required levels (your results are good for five years, so if you already have a profile that meets the requirements on file, you won’t be retested; if you have no profile, or if your current profile is less than the requirements, you will be tested).

Why do you care about this β€œtesting” phase if you are an applicant?

Because if it is in the SoMC, they WILL ask you or your references about it. Somewhere, sometime, somehow. Guaranteed. And here’s the fun part – if it’s NOT in the SoMC, they won’t test you on it. They can’t – they have to test what is in the SoMC and ONLY what is in the SoMC. And, if you screw up somewhere, the informal is a great way to find out what you did wrong (spoke too fast, not enough content, drooled on the carpet, missed a question, too much content / not enough synthesis of your content, etc.).

Because you can’t fake your way past any element. If you have no chance of making it i.e. you have little to no french but the requirement is full fluency (CCC), you’re going to go through a lot of work likely for nothing, only to be excluded at the end. There are some SMALL exceptions to this situation, and it will be discussed later, but caveat candidatus – let the candidate beware!

Phase 5: Managers select best fit candidate

Once all the testing is done, the manager selects the β€œbest fit” candidate. This doesn’t mean that the candidate with the best smile or the best scores is the one chosen. Once all the β€œsuccessful” candidates (i.e. all those who pass every element) are considered together, the manager will decide which one is the best fit for the job, work unit, team dynamics, etc. After all, you’re all deemed “qualified” at this point and thus “merit” is proven.

After choosing one, the manager may then get approval from their boss (Approval #3) to select the candidate. Once the manager has chosen someone, they will likely show your resume to their boss to say β€œthis is the person I intend to hire.” They’ll explain how you did in the process, etc, but often they’ll circulate the resume as an intro to their boss. Some managers won’t bother with this step if it is a relatively junior position, but if you are applying for more senior positions that will regularly deal with senior people, the managers will generally show their boss something before formally selecting you. This is also an opportunity for the manager to confirm with the boss that the management situation is still the same as when they started, and to avoid suddenly being caught by surprise if the boss says, β€œOops, our budget was reduced and we no longer have the money to hire someone.”

The manager also has to get approval (again) from the PSC to select the candidate (including assessing priority referrals, if necessary; Approval #4). Way back when the posting notice first went to the PSC, managers had to β€œclear priorities” (if any) before proceeding. Now that the manager is at the end of the process, they may have to clear priorities (again, or for the first time). Generally these are β€œnew” candidates who were added to the priority list after the initial request, but not always.

Why do you care about this β€œbest fit” phase if you are an applicant?

Because it means that you can come first on just about every element, and not β€œwin” the job. Why? The manager may be looking for someone who is a strong extrovert to balance out an introverted team, plus a strong oral communicator to give presentations, and someone with superior language skills. Or maybe she was also looking for judgement, interpersonal skills, written communication, initiative, etc., where you excelled, but another candidate has a strong background in making presentations in French as part of outreach programs and is an strong extrovert (as reflected in their communication ability and interpersonal skills). As such, the manager may select the one that β€œbest fits” the job and team. It may be you, it may not be. But you need to know this before you start – it means you are NOT trying to convince the manager that you are the best candidate, but rather the best candidate for a specific job. The more you can find out about the team and the job, the better placed you are to show how you would fit in.

Because while your first intro to the hiring manager was your cover letter – it’s what they used to screen you in or out – the first intro to their boss is likely to be your resume. Both have to be ready for prime time – no skimping on one or the other in your application process.

Because if someone is appointed as a priority candidate, you have almost no right of appeal. They are not considered β€œpart” of the process, and departments may β€œcancel” the competition and appoint the person from the priority list. It’s as if the competition never happened, because the priority candidates are β€œoutside” the process. Put another way, the course of true love never runs smooth, and neither does HR. Things change, and it may suck to be β€œleading the pack” only to have a priority candidate seem to jump the queue. Foreign Affairs staff had a saying – β€œDon’t assume you have the job until you have been doing it for a week, and maybe not even then!”. Good advice to remember – it’s not over until you’re appointed, no matter how well things seem to be going.

Phase 6: Managers formally state intention to hire specific applicant(s)

Okay, the manager has selected someone. And they post a β€œnotice of consideration” that says, β€œThis is the person we intend to hire.” Once a week has passed (the duration is usually a week), a β€œnotice of appointment” is posted – this is the formal notice that not only was the person β€œconsidered”, they are now being appointed to the position.

If you were the person, the hiring department will issue you a β€œletter of offer” that you and your boss have to sign, and you’re generally β€œgood to go”. However, note that the appeals process mentioned earlier is not instantaneous. While the department will move ahead to appoint you and have you start, it is theoretically possible that an appeal could be launched, and if successful, your appointment revoked. This rarely happens, and usually would mean that the hiring manager really screwed something up in the process.

Why do you care about this β€œnotice” phase if you are an applicant?

Because of two reasons – if you aren’t the one chosen, this may be the first time you find out the process has ended and you aren’t the β€œwinning” candidate. YouΒ shouldΒ get a notice from HR earlier to say you were found qualified, but at that point, communication from the department may stop, leaving you scratching your head and wondering, β€œNow what?”. This tells you that for you, the answer is potentially β€œnothing.”

Because these notices formalize the appeal process, if you are considering appealing. Alternatively, it is also the mechanism for formally announcing that you are the winning candidate if you are the one being selected

Because the most important part for you as the winning candidate is not the appeals process, but the letter of offer. While this includes a whole host of language about values and ethics, etc., it also includes more immediate information for you – your title in the new position, which division you are assigned to (if it wasn’t clear previously, this could be exciting to learn), what your classification will be (this shouldn’t be a surprise, since you applied for a specific job), and what your level will be (which also equates to a specific pay scale!).

Phase 7: Managers address appeals

Most appeals don’t proceed very far in the formal appeal process for one of two reasons. First, if the appellant’s reasons are sound, and it appears the hiring manager was in error, the department will likely correct the problem themselves long before it gets to a tribunal stage. This may involve screening the appellant into the competition and assessing them from the stage where they were screened out, or giving them an opportunity to try a test that they missed for valid enough reasons to grant an extension.

Second, if the appellant is completely out to lunch, the union will advise them that they have no valid grounds to pursue, and possibly withdraw legal support. The person may complain, but they’ll likely let the matter drop once they get into a formal situation of filing briefs for a tribunal, responding to filings by the Department, etc. Some people view appeals as a waste of time – like buses, there will be another competition coming along any minute – and suggest that you just move on. However, sometimes there are grey areas where the appellant and the department do not agree on what was the right approach to take in a given situation (such as a person being tested for language early on in the process, rather than at the end, and getting screened out). In these rare cases, the appeal may go all the way to a tribunal who will decide first if the scope of the complaint is a valid grounds for complaining, and second if the appellant’s complaints prove the grounds of the complaint.

Why do you care about this β€œappeal” phase if you are an applicant?

Because a whole separate volume could address why candidates should care about tribunal decisions, but at this point, note that tribunal decisions help constrain what is appropriate in future competitions and what is not. Knowing what to expect, and what is β€œout of bounds”, will help you focus on what really matters.

Becaise it is also the way of protecting your rights. Managers are not free to do whatever they want, there are rules in place that have to be followed. So an appeal may overturn a bad process. However, note that a tribunal does not have the power to say “Jane was right, John shouldn’t have gotten the job, the process was flawed, give it to Jane”. Their only power is to revoke John’s appointment. So even if you win, you may not get anything out of it beyond the satisfaction that the process gets tossed.

Phase 8: Managers hire the successful candidate

This may seem like an almost anti-climactic step as you already received your letter of offer at this point. But going back to the beginning, this chapter isn’t about understanding the competition part, it is about understanding the entire HR process from beginning to end. Which includes you actually starting the job, being assigned a set of duties, developing a performance agreement, planning some training, meeting your coworkers, etc.

Why do you care about this β€œappeal” phase if you are an applicant?

Because if you remember those two chapters about knowing yourself and knowing government, this is the stage that will tell you if you actually will enjoy the new job.

Now, having read all the above, you know the eight main phases of a competition for a manager. Let’s drill down on the parts that you do as a candidate.

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Mike
28 days ago

Good Morning Paul!

Thank you so much for the write up!

I recently went through a process. The process is for a single position, but it also stated that a pool will be created for the candidates that could be used for the current and future process.

I have a 3 questions:

1. I just got an email that I was put into the pool, since this was for a single appointment, did I get passed up as the top candidate? Or do they usually put everyone into a pool, then select a candidate?

2. For my SLE, I currently have C/C for Reading/Writing (from another process), but I haven’t been scheduled yet for Oral.

This position needs only a BBB but I worry that the manager might choose a candidate with a complete profile over me since I heard the Oral SLE might take months to schedule since they are overbooked, should I be worried?

3. Is it possible to ask for an Oral SLE test in any of the processes so I could have a complete profile in the future?

Thank you in advance Paul!

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Mike
28 days ago
Reply to  Paul

Wow, thank you for such a detailed answers to my questions, I really appreciate it Paul!

To answer your questions, yes I should have specified that I got put into a PaP (3 in fact), since I am still missing my Oral language testing…and now I really need to convince one of the processes to test me for Oral so I would have a complete profile.

Sigh, I guess the chances for the current process might be pretty slim, since they moved fairly quickly through the process (I applied late august I believe), so I assumed that they needed to staff the position quickly, and I haven’t received any best fit call yet.

I guess I probably could email the HR for my current process in 1-2 weeks and ask if I could get tested for oral SLE? I just received the PaP email yesterday so I don’t want to appear too pushy.

Another question I have is that I saw people mentioning leveraging being in pools to get jobs from Facebook group posts, does that work for PaP as well?

Do I mention that I still have an oral SLE required when initially reaching out like replying to a post or in a cold call email?

Or should I mention it after I get some kind of interest from a Manager?

Thank you again for helping everyone Paul! I really appreciate it!

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Mike
27 days ago
Reply to  Paul

Hello Paul!

Thanks again for the great response!

I actually just got the email for the best fit interview, which is amazing, and I didn’t expect it to be this fast.

The interview is still a few weeks away, I am just wondering in addition to confirming the date/time, should I ask the manager “If there are other things I need to prepare?” etc to ensure I have the most info as possible?

Obvious I will prepare this like a regular interview, go over my CV/Application Questions, JD/Merits Req, as well as any soft skills I possess etc. as well as prepare some questions to ask the manager and senior director, who will be on the call.

I was wondering if there are some other things I could prepare for this best-fit interview?

If I pass this interview, I guess the next step would be Oral SLE, which I am confident that I will be able to get at least a B.

Is it possible to have them start to schedule me for the Oral SLE now so it would be a shorter timeline? Or usually it’s not possible and I would need to wait until I pass the best-fit interview?

Thank you again for all the time you took to help me, I really appreciate it Paul!

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Ellis
2 months ago

Good morning, Paul!

I was reading the recent discussion on clearances here and I was also wondering if it’s possible to work with a reliability status while waiting for your secret.

Thanks!

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Jack
2 months ago

Hi Paul,

I’ve been going through a NAA for a position. I’ve submitted all my important documents and also done my language exams. The process has been ongoing for nearly 2 months. What could be the hold up for receiving my letter of offer?

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Jack
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the informative answer. I can confirm everything has been finished besides my security clearance. I was a previous student and am being bridged.

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Jack
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

There was a delay of about 2.5 weeks after I filled out my security form and I just got fingerprinted a couple days ago. Considering I already have a reliability status, should the process be quicker?

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Jack
2 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

It is an upgrade from Reliability to Secret within the same department.

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John
5 months ago

Hey Paul, thank you for this amazing guide. I’m new to public service (fresh out of university) and was found fully qualified as a PM-03 and PM-04 with ISC. Your guide literally helped me at every step of the process and I sincerely appreciate the effort you put into this.

I was wondering how I might be able to leverage being in a fully qualified pool? I know that there is a push to hire more employees with disabilities as they are currently underrepresented in the PS workforce. Although I am a person with disabilities and fall under another employment equity group, I’m not sure if/when I’ll hear back from them about an offer.

So I’ve been trying to figure out what my next steps might be? I haven’t stopped applying for other jobs and completing exams.

Any advice would be appreciated

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John
5 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Thanks for your reply Paul! Would it be best to state my pool qualification during the initial screening application? Or wait until an interview.

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Ahmed
8 months ago

Hi Paul,

I hope you’re doing well. I wanted to reach out because I’ve just passed the resume screening stage for the position. However, I’ve received an email asking me to fill out the Statement of Merit Criteria, which seems to align with what you previously mentioned as the job poster. I’m just a bit confused about it, especially that i have to fill the ‘candidates answer’ section . Could you provide some clarification or guidance on how to approach this? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Ahmed
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul, thank you for the response. I was just finishing the document as your reply came and it helps a lot. About the character limit, it mentions nothing. In the email also, they just said that i needed to explain how i met the criteria and they asked for detailed explanation. Here is how i answered the requirements:

They asked me: “Experience working in a team environment, following coding standards, participating in code reviews, and collaborating with back-end developers and designers”
And i responded with: “I excel in collaborative environments and value effective teamwork. At [X company], this included mentoring new team members, actively engaging with clients, and participating in code reviews to ensure quality. For example, I frequently collaborated with co-op student design teams, resolving conflicts to ensure alignment between design and development.

Recognizing a team need, I took the initiative to create and document templates and coding practices for a new application. This streamlined onboarding, saving approximately 14 hours of onboarding time, while also ensuring code consistency. I prioritize code security, stay up-to-date with best practices like following OWASP top ten, and provide timely and constructive feedback on pull requests. My experience at [Y company] and [Z company] further demonstrates my strong communication and project-based teamwork skills.”

Another time they asked: “Knowledge of GC web standards including the Standard on Web Accessibility, Standard on Optimizing Websites and Applications for Mobile Devices, Standard on Metadata and the Standard on Web Interoperability”

And i answered: “I have not integrated GC web standards into my work before, but I am familiar with the terminology and core concepts used in the Standards on Web Accessibility, Optimizing Website, Metadata, and Web Interoperability. For example, in terms of accessibility, I am familiar with using WCAG 2.0 standards on our website, such as semantic HTML, color contrast, and ARIA roles. Additionally, I am familiar with search engine optimization using metadata titles and descriptions, which I integrated into the ‘[X project]’ application. I also developed applications ensuring cross-browser compatibility, as the β€˜[x]’, β€˜[y]’, and β€˜[z]’ projects are used by medical researchers and hospitals, where most systems only support the ‘Microsoft Edge’ browser. Therefore, ensuring cross-browser compatibility was important. Furthermore, I created responsive designs from mobile to larger screens and ran Lighthouse reports for page optimization. I believe my experience in these areas will enable me to quickly grasp the GC Web Standards and implement them on the website later.”

I tried to follow the star method and provide real examples along with my resume, Please share your thoughts on this.

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Ahmed
8 months ago
Reply to  Paul

Another thing i forgot to ask: I corrected a lot of my grammar and rephrased some sentences using AI. I was wondering if the government uses some sort of AI tool to check against the document.

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Cameron
10 months ago

Hi Paul,

I applied for a position a few months ago that’s left me super confused about how the process works regarding screening and “Employment Equity Groups”. The application questions themselves were pretty thorough, and the whole thing took me the full day. A month later, I received an email that I had been screened out as they had limited the selection to Aboriginal Persons. Now I want to be clear, I fully support the effort to have equitable employment within government and have no problem with jobs being posted seeking candidates from certain equity groups or preference being given to candidates that belong to certain equity groups. I was just a little disappointed to have spent so much time on my application only to have it not even looked at, and confused as to why the job wasn’t limited in the first place. Anyways, it worked out I suppose because another month later they sent me another email to let me know that I have been screened back in. Is this a common practice in government hiring?

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Frank
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

I applied for an external position that would also make a pool. I got an email saying I was put in a pool of partially qualified candidates, but in the same email I was invited to an informal discussion with the hiring manager. Some of my friends in the government told me that this might be a best fit discussion or that it might mean that I didn’t get the position. What do you think?

Thank you for all the time and effort you put in your guides, it really helps.

Cheers

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Frankie
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

First of all, thank you so much for the wonderful discussions found here as I was eagerly looking for answers everywhere on the internet and fortunately ended up here. In my case, I was pre screened in January 2023, sat for a test in February 2023, went for an interview in April 2023, followed by reference checks, language assessment (which was not really necessary since they mentioned the position requires only unilingual staff for a pilot project for 2 years term , although initially in the job ad it was mentioned as bilingual), confirmation of Canadian education equivalency, confirmation of work permit status as I am not a Canadian citizen or PR, and after that I was informed that I am found to be fully qualified and placed in a pool of candidates in late April. So I asked if I will get an offer for the position and one month later in May 2023, I received a reply from the recruitment team that I was found to be fully qualified and placed in a pool of qualified candidates. If there is a need for employment, the federal agency will contact me for further processes and if not there will be no further communications from their end. Since then I have been waiting for the offer letter and it has been about 5 months since the last communication from them as stated above. My question is whether to keep my hope up for the offer letter or not, since I also saw some clarifications and responses about not being considered for government positions if the candidate is not a citizen (even PR). Thanks a lot in advance. Cheers.

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orchid
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

First of all, I would like to express my gratitude for your wonderful guide and for all your help and useful responses to all my questions. I am now in some partially qualified EC05 and EC06 pools as a result of your advice. I was placed in these pools recently and I am an external candidate.

My question is how do these pools work:

– Are all successful candidates who passed the interview+references put into a pool and then a candidate is selected to continue the process with a SLE and an informal interview?

– Or does the hiring manager select the one successful candidate to continue the process and places all the rest into a pool?

I do not know what to expect, given that I cannot see in the system if a hire was made etc.

Thank you again for all your valuable advices!
Best regards!
Orchid

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orchid
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

Thank you so much for such a detailed and useful response! In my case, only the SLE and security clearance were left to do. It seems to me that a preferred and likely successful candidate (in that hiring process) would hear from the hiring manager shortly after being placed into the pool to schedule a best fit interview.

If that is not happening soon, perhaps within a couple of weeks from creating the pool, then that is an indication that the hiring manager is considering other candidates – in my case, there were various language requirements, so I suspect multiple individuals are to be selected (not clear how many).

Only time will tell. I will keep on applying to other processes meanwhile.
Have a nice end of the week and thank you again for everything that you are doing for all of us! Orchid

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orchid
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Thank you so much, Paul, for your generosity! I have no words to express how much I appreciate you taking the time to provide such thorough and valuable explanations! I will keep on following your advice and be better prepared for anything that comes my way. Have a nice evening! Orchid

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Fred
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

Thank you so much for this guide, I have been using it as my bible for government applications!

I recently failed on the interview stage of one of the competitions I was in. I am wondering about how I would go about receiving feedback on how I scored on the process?

Thanks!

Fred

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Janet
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

You helped me once before by answering a question that allowed me prep for an interview, and I have scoured your guide and comments section at each stage of the various processes I’m participating in. I am so grateful for the guidance and insight you offer here.

I have two questions for you about processes I’m in:

First, the interview I mentioned above resulted in my being added to a partially assessed pool (with no immediate hiring), and the pool notification email said that all assessment steps had been done “except attention to detail and the language proficiency.” They had previously asked for–but never contacted–my references, but the language of the pool notification suggests the reference check has been done (since they don’t mention it as an outstanding requirement). Now, this week, I have been added to a second partially qualified pool in a different department, and again references were not contacted but there is also no mention of references in the “steps remaining” indicated in the pool notification email. So my question is, what’s up with this? How can they add me to a partially qualified pool without contacting my references first or at least indicating that this step hasn’t yet been taken? Isn’t that step necessary?

My second question is about the second pool I’m now in. The competition was for 03/04 levels. The pool notification email tells me that I’ve been added to the partially assessed pool for the 04 level only. Should I read into this at all? Like, can I interpret this to mean that I am more likely to get an offer since I’ve been partially-pooled only for the higher level (and they must therefore find me a competent candidate)? Or is that reading too much into it?

Thank you again, Paul! You may be on holidays and not see this–I hope you are! πŸ™‚

Janet

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Janet
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Thank you very much, once again, for a detailed and thoughtful reply, Paul! I appreciate it very much!

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Sam
1 year ago

So far I have only posted in the interview page but I have a question about a bizarre process I am in and this page seemed a more appropriate place to post my question (I have omitted the name of the department):

About two years ago I applied for a position, the language requirements were:

>>>Various language requirements
>>>Bilingual Imperative BBB/BBB, CBC/CBC, CCC/CCC, English essential
>>>Some appointments could be non-Imperative.

A few months later I filled out an online questionnaire for β€œasset experience”. Shortly thereafter I was told I met the essential education and experience criteria and was invited to take a knowledge exam. In late 2021 I took the test and got the pass mark for two out of the three levels. In summer of 2022 I was invited to write a second language exam. I told them I was only interested in English Essential and non-Imperative positions. I got the following response:

>>>If you only want to be considered for English essential position, it is your right. However, the majority of the positions are bilingual.

Couple of months ago I asked whether I was in a pool or could be placed in one, the response was:

>>>For the time being you cannot be placed in a pool of qualified candidates. If our clients have future needs for unilingual position we will get back to you to finish the assessments for this process.

To tell a candidate that has gone through all pre-interview screening criteria successfully, β€œyou have to wait indefinitely”—nearly two years after the application deadlineβ€”strikes me as not very rational (to put it very mildly).

So, what are my options at this point and which one do you recommend? Is this a common occurrence in the hiring process?

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Sam
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

The job posting was for EC-03/04/05 (analyst). Two issues:

(1) They explicitly say β€œEnglish Essential” is one of the language requirements and that some appointments could be non-Imperative. If the original job posting had said bilingual and nothing else I would not have applied! In effect they have changed the language requirement in the middle of the process.

(2) I find β€œwait until I get back to you and no I have no idea when that will be” to be frustrating and no way to staff an organization. I don’t understand why they don’t place me in a poolβ€”say for English Essential positions onlyβ€”because the email just says they won’t, no reasons given.

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Sam
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

GAC regularly does this for language, for example, on permanent recruitment hires. They create a partially assessed pool but language and security are not done β€” any manager wanting to hire someone has to finish those steps.

Why can’t the department I am dealing with, do what GAC does?

You haven’t got pulled yet, doesn’t mean no other unilinguals have been staffed yet.

Could be, but what criteria were used to rank unilinguals? While I have the pass mark for both EC-03 and EC-04, I have told them I would be happy with an EC-03. I have also told them that I would welcome a non-imperative bilingual position. Finally, I don’t think EE considerations are an issue either…

This is the third or fourth point where you’ve basically said they’re all idiots and they should do it the way you think it should be done.

The issue isn’t them not doing what I want, it is the lack of a rational basis. If they said: β€œWe ranked our unilinguals based on [XYZ], you are not on top of the list, but when you get thereβ€”which might take until July 2024β€”we will let you know.” I would not celebrate but it would be rational. You say: β€œit’s relatively clear that you aren’t trying to understand their position on anything” but their position is β€œwait indefinitely” without any additional piece of information. There isn’t much room for β€œtrying to understand their position”.

What matters is that it is the job of the applicant who wants a job to quack like a duck. Acting like a disgruntled swan is a waste of your energy.

I quacked and they said it was well done. The problem is since then (Nov. 2021) the process has stopped. And pointing out the problems of an indefinite process (β€œyou have to wait and we will not tell you for how long”) does not make me disgruntled.

I hate to say it, but if you’re this antagonistic about processes before you even enter government, I’m pretty sure you’re not going to survive long once / if you get in.

I don’t think I am being antagonistic at all. On the interview page we had a discussion and you wrote this:

Those answers both surprised me as you, as a candidate, have a legal RIGHT to enquire as to the status. Once they screen you out, your rights are relatively limited to appeals and stuff. Until then, you have pretty open ended rights, including the right to know if you are still β€œIN” the process. To me? It can’t be impolite to ask if you have the right to do so. But as I said, popular wisdom was not to!

I am inquiring about my status in a selection processβ€”now in its third yearβ€”which I have not been screened out of. I have also asked them, once, whether I can be placed in a pool. And you are calling me β€œantagonistic” and a β€œdisgruntled swan”!! :-)) I don’t mind, it doesn’t bother me, but I am also not surprised when people (particularly the younger generation) are extremely risk-averse when dealing with the government hiring process.

PS: I used > > > (without spaces) and < < < (without spaces) to indicate a quote. That messed with the editor so I had to edit the post. Once I was done it would not let the edit go through, which is why I am posting this.

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Marc
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

I recently applied for a EG-04 position. I have a few questions :

Context: I had a virtual screening interview called “Core Competency Assessment” on January 26th from which I got a feedback last week. The e-mail read : “Having successfully met these minimum assessment criteria, you have been placed in a partially assessed pool of candidates”. In the same e-mail, I was invited for a second interview in order to answer additional questions (technical questions). I completed this second interview on March 14th.

Questions:
1- What is the difference between partially and fully assessed pool?
2- Since the first interview allowed me to have my application placed in a partially assessed pool, does this mean that the second interview was done in order to have my application placed in a fully assessed pool?
3- If you get screened into a process like I was, is it because they are looking to fill a vacant position or is it because when you apply for a position you are automatically ask to give this virtual interview?

Thanks a lot,

Marc

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Conrad
1 year ago

Hello, I am seeing positions where I would be a really good fit, in terms of my qualifications, experience and other merits. I am not yet in a pool with the GoC, and wanted to ask how easy/difficult it is to be “screened in” to a pool. Advice welcomed! Thank you.

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Paul
1 year ago

**never mind you answered my question in a post below**

Last edited 1 year ago by Paul
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Jamie
1 year ago

Hi,

Are informal discussions only when you do not get the job?

I am currently in a process where I have completed the assessment, participated in an interview, and was asked for references. Now, a week after my references were requested, I have been invited for an informal discussion. I was told in the interview that I might be invited to another interview with my potential manager. Should I assume that this informal discussion is a meeting with my potential manager, so essentially an interview? Or will they be letting me know why I wasn’t chosen for the job?

Thanks,

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Jamie
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Thanks so much!

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orchid
1 year ago

Hi Paul,

I wrote an EC05 exam in mid November 2022, but I have not heard anything from the hiring committee so far. Is there a chance that I would hear from them even if I did not pass the exam? Or do they only notify the candidates who were selected for an interview and ignore the rest? Thank you so much for this wonderful website.

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orchid
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

Thank you so much! I appreciate it.

Best regards!

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orchid
1 year ago

Hi, I wrote a test three months ago (mid November) and I have not heard anything about my status yet. I assume I did not pass the test. Do you know if they let candidates know about the test results either way? Thank you so much.

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orchid
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

Thank you so much for such a detailed and helpful message! I am truly grateful for this. It is very useful to get your perspective. This is absolutely amazing.

I forgot to mention that I am an external applicant and I am not familiar with the application process, so getting such a thorough response in addition to all the information that you have already presented on your website helps tremendously.

I decided not to bother them about elucidating my status, but focus instead on identifying other suitable applications for my qualifications and on improving my SLE skills.

I very much appreciate all your help!
Best regards

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orchid
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks again! This is very helpful. Have a lovely day!

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Karen
3 years ago

Hi Paul!

Thanks so much for taking the time and putting so much effort to create this website for everyone! I personally am so thankful I ran into this website while I was doing my research for preparing for my very first written exam for a position I recently applied for the federal government (fingers crossed it goes smoothly! If not, I will work hard to continue to improve my skills and try again when I find another suitable position)!

It is really interesting to read the differences of the federal government jobs in comparison to municipal and provincial government positions, as someone in their 20s with only experience with jobs at the municipal and provincial level, this website was extremely helpful!

Just wanted to pass on my thanks! πŸ™‚
Karen

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J Mar
4 years ago

Hello, I have been involved in a number of different applications within the government of Canada. For one of the positions I applied for, I completed written tests, completed an interview, provided proof of education, residence. Lastly, I was given a form to complete my security clearance and was instructed to mail it. The security clearance was received by them roughly 6 weeks ago. Do you think my chances are good for receiving an offer given the fact that I made it to the security clearance process? Thank you!